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Questions for a Breeder
NOTE: If you are dealing with a member
of the RCC, MRC, CRC, USRC, or another Rottweiler club whose members
adhere to a strict code of ethics, you should obtain satisfactory
answers to these questions. If, however, you decide to take the risk of
buying a puppy from the backyard breeders or puppy mills who advertise
in the newspaper or in some dog magazines, the answers to these
questions should be most revealing and alarming as far as the kind of
quality for the same price or less than the puppy mills and backyard
breeders. As the saying goes, Let the buyer beware.
1. Are both the sire and dam of the litter O.F.A. certified?
Correct answer: Yes, both sire and dam are OFA certified. I can show you
copies of the OFA certificates. (You should also ask for the OFA numbers
and you can contact the OFA Registry or check the site at
www.offa.org)
Incorrect answer: Oh, no, we don't have an OFA certification, but the
hips are "clear". Our vet checked them out. I don't really know if the
sire's hips are ok or not. Hang up the phone and end the conversation
here. If the hips were not certified by the Orthopedic Foundation for
Animals, then you don't know if hip displasia is present or not. Many
"breeders" will tell you the hips are "clear" meaning they had a vet who
was probably not a Board Certified radiologist look at the hips and say
they looked OK. *Unless the Vet is Board Certified, he doesn't really
know what he's looking at.
INSIST ON SEEING AN OFA CERTIFICATE FOR BOTH PARENTS!
REMEMBER - THESE DISEASES ARE THE RESULT OF COMBINATIONS OF MULTIPLE
GENES, THEREFORE CERTIFICATION OF THE PARENTS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE
PUPPIES WILL BE DISEASE FREE. ASK FOR A CONTRACT WHICH GUARANTEES
AGAINST ALL GENETIC DISORDERS.
2. Are either the sire or and the dam titled in conformation or
working trials such as Schutzhund, AKC obedience, German or AKC style
conformation shows?
Correct answer: Yes, the dam has her C.D. (an AKC obedience title) and
is in training for her BH (a Schutzhund obedience and temperament title)
which we hope to complete next year. She has also been shown in the
German breed ring and was rated V-2, I can give you a copy of her
critique (German shows provide each dog with a written critique of the
dogs conformation). The sire is pointed (in order to become an AKC
champion, a dog must accumulate 15 points. When someone says to you that
a dog is pointed that means that it has some points towards its
championship title, but has not yet accumulated the 15 points necessary
to be a champion), and has a Schutzhund three (a German title involving
tracking, obedience and protection).
Incorrect answer: Well, no, we've never shown our bitch. We just bought
her as a pet. But I know she's a good quality Rottweiler because she has
champions in her pedigree, and we paid a lot of money for her.
(Translation: We do not know, nor do we care about the future of the
Rottweiler breed. We spent a lot of money for this dog, and we want to
make money selling her puppies. We do not want to bother with hip
x-rays, dog shows, obedience training, or learning about the strengths
and weaknesses of our bitch's bloodlines because that takes time and
money.....)
3. Why did you decide to breed your female?
Correct answer: We feel that she is a good representative or the
Rottweiler breed and has something to offer to perpetuate the desirable
qualities of the breed. For example, she has demonstrated her working
ablility by earning an AKC obedience title. She has a lovely head, which
you don't see very often in a bitch. She has a very dark eye, nice small
ears, full detention and a scissors bite, an iron topline, and very
fluid movement. Both of her parents are titled. She comes from a litter
of 6 puppies and of those 6, 4 have already finished conformation and/or
obedience titles, and 3 have earned Schutzhund titles. Also, of the 6
puppies, 5 are OFA certified. We searched for a male that complimented
her and found one we like in Chicago, so we sent her there to be bred.
We didn't want to breed her unless we found the right male for her. The
sire of the litter has produced several schutzhund, obedience titled and
champion offspring, so we know he has the ability to pass on his good
qualities. (In some cases the sire may be unproven, but may have lineage
which the bitches owner desires for their bloodlines, in those cases,
the bitches owner will usually be keeping at least one puppy for
themselves).
Incorrect answer: We spent several hundred dollars for this dog and we
wanted to get back some of our investment. Besides, she's a beautiful
bitch. She has perfect markings, and she has a great pedigree. There are
20 champions in 5 generations! We also wanted to keep a puppy for
ourselves. (What this person is telling you is that he/she is only
breeding their dog for the sake of making money. They may not be doing
this maliciously... But they by no means have taken the time and effort
to prove this bitch's quality, and he probably bred to the closest and
cheapest male. He may even own the stud dog as well. When someone says
their dog has a "championship bloodline", they usually meant that the
great-grandparents have a championship title. Seldom will the parents or
the grand-parents be titled. The great-grandparents are too far removed
genetically to have a great influence on the quality of these puppies.
Once again, hang up!)
4. Have both the sire and dam been tested for genetic defects such as
hypothyroidism, cataracts, sub-aortic stenosis, or von Willebrands
Disease (a bleeding disorder)? Is there any history or entropian or
ectropian in the bloodlines?
Correct answer: Yes, both sire and dam have been tested and are
certified free of the above defects. I'll be happy to give you the
number of my vet so that you can call him/her and inquire about my dog's
health history. I can also give you the name and phone number of the
stud dog's owner so that you can get the same information on the sire of
the litter. To my knowledge, there is no history of entropian or
ectropian in either the dam's or the sire's bloodlines as far back as
the grandparents. (NOTE: Hypothyroidism is very prevalent in the
Rottweiler. In some cases, an affected dog will be bred, but only to a
partner who has a normal thyroid as well as a strong genetic propensity
for normal thyroid. A low thyroid animal should only be bred if he/she
is an outstanding specimen in every other repect. Although it is not
desirable, and we don't want to perpetuate the problem, Hypothyroidism
can be inexpensively treated with drugs. On the other hand, a dog with
entropian or ectropian, that is eyelids that turn inward causing the dog
great pain, or outward, causing pus to constantly collect in the dog's
eyes, can be corrected by surgery but at a significant expense...)
REMEMBER - THESE DISEASES ARE THE RESULT OF COMBINATIONS OF MUTIPLE
GENES, THEREFORE CERTIFICATION OF THE PARENTS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE
PUPPIES WILL BE DISEASE FREE. ASK FOR A CONTRACT WHICH GUARANTEES
AGAINST ALL GENETIC DISORDERS.
Incorrect answer: Hypothyroidism? What's that? Cataracts? Our dog can
see fine, Entropi what? What is that anyway? No, I don't think our dogs
have any of those things....( This "breeder" is obviously not interested
in preserving the breed and may be passing on hereditary defects that
may cost you hundred of dollars to remedy. He is most likely only
interested in your money...definitely hang up on this one.)
5. Do both the sire and the dam have correct dentition (all of their
teeth AND a scissors bite)?
Correct answer: Well, of course they do. I wouldn't breed a dog with
a disqualifying fault such as missing teeth, or an undershot, overshot,
or wry bite. Breeding a dog with faulty dentition will eventually ruin
the head type because, you see, the teeth are actually a part of the
skeletal structure. Changing the skeletal structure changes the head
type. In order to preserve the correct head type, only dogs with correct
dentition should be bred.
Incorrect answer: Well of all the things........We've never counted her
teeth! What's that got to do with anything?! She can sure as heck still
bite somebody pretty good!
6. What are the strengths and weaknesses in the sire and dam? How do
you feel the two bloodlines compliment each other?
Correct answer: The strengths of the dam are as follows: nice head; a
dark, almond shaped eye; a good front; a nice topline and a short back.
She has nice tight feet and pasterns. Her weaknesses are that, although
she has a nice head, she is wet (loose skin in the throat area), her
markings are a little light in color, but they are well defined. She
could have more bone. She has fair movement. It isn't awful, but it
could be better. She doesn't have much drive when she gaits. As far as
her bloodline's weaknesses, she is an OFA fair, and 5 of the 6 puppies
in her litter passed the OFA, BUT, her maternal grandmother produced 50%
dyplastic puppies (half of the puppies that her grandmother had, with 3
different sires, did not pass the OFA). So, we looked for a male who had
a bloodline with a history of producing normal hips. The sire we
selected for her is strong in all of the areas that she is weak. He has
excellent movement with good reach and drive. He has dark mahogany
markings. He has a beautiful head with no wetness present. He has good
bone. He comes from a dam who produced 3 litters, and 85% passed the OFA.
So, I feel that he possesses a strong genetic propensity to pass on
normal hips. As for his week points, he does have a round eye and his
feet are not very tight. but our bitch is strong in those areas, so we
haven't doubled up on any weaknesses.
Incorrect answer: Well, the dam has perfect markings. She's a little
small, weighing only 80 pounds, so we picked the biggest male we could
find. The sire weighs 150 pounds! He has a huge head, too! He's awesome!
(Translation: I don't know a thing about responsible breeding of dogs,
much less about Rottweilers and my own particular bloodlines....and I'm
hoping that you don't either so that you'll buy one of these puppies.)
7. What sort of guarantee do you offer on the puppy?
For a pet puppy, we guarantee the following:
(1) We guarantee that the puppy will not
develop crippling hip dysplasia.
(2) We guarantee that the puppy will not
develop any crippling genetic defects. If the animal has to be destroyed
due to a genetic problem like crippling hip dysplasia or blindness,
deafness, etc., we will refund half the purchase price or replace the
puppy/dog with a comparable one from a future breeding.
(3) We guarantee that the puppy went home to you with a stable
temperament and will not be excessivelly shy or aggressive (NOTE: Even
some code of ethics breeders will not offer this in their contracts
because temperament is influenced by environment which is the fault of
the owner, not the breeder. When a dog has an unstable temperament, it
is difficult to prove the cause.)
For a show potential puppy, we guarantee all of the above in addition to
the following:
(1) that the hips will pass the OFA certification. We require they are
done by the age of 26 months.
(2) that the puppy will not develop any
disqualifying faults according to the AKC standard for the breed which
would render it incapable of being shown. If the puppy is dysplastic, or
if the puppy develops a disqualifying fault, we will refund the
difference in price between pet and show potential puppies upon written
proof that the animal has been rendered incapable of reproducing.
Incorrect answer: Guarantee? No, we don't offer any guarantee. You pay
your money and you take your chances. Or.....Guarantee? Yes, we'll
guarantee that the puppy will not be dyplastic. (this is too
vague...Unless the guarantee specifically states that the dog's hips
will pass the OFA after the dog reaches 2 years of age, it is worthless.
Also, the contract should state what the breeder will offer you if the
dog is dysplastic, deaf, blind, or has an unstable temperament and has
to be destroyed.)
*The point we are trying to make here is that for the same price as
you'd pay a puppy mill or backyard breeder, you can get a far better dog
by dealing with a knowledgeable, conscientious, and ethical breeder. The
ethical breeders are not likely to advertise puppies in the newspaper.
His/her puppies are not difficult to sell and so he/she usually doesn't
need to place an ad. He advertises in national breed club publications
like the MRC or the CRC newsletter or the TRQ or the Rottweiler Club of
Canada newsletter.
CAREFULLY INVESTIGATE BEFORE YOU BUY!!!!!
Original article written by the
Rottweiler Club of New Mexico
and modified with permission by Liz
Bauer.
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